EWS #31: Mother on flying saucers, anti-gravity technology (2)

Mar 30, 2019

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Narad (0:00:00):
Welcome to our continuing series, Evenings with Sraddhalu. It is our last day in the ashram as we leave tonight for the US and we were in Sri Aurobindo's room this morning and both of us had powerful experiences. I wonder if you could talk a little about Sri Aurobindo's room and what one should do when one goes to that room, because many people, they are going for the first time, they don't really know what to do, what to expect, what they should do.

Sraddhalu (0:00:45):
It depends on the person. Most devotees already go into that space as a sacred space, and instinctively they know what to do. And ideally, one simply opens oneself entirely as completely as possible so that he may see you as thoroughly as possible. That means nothing in you is covered up, nothing in you is hidden, nothing in you is held back, all is exposed to his gaze, to his light, to his force and action, to the Mother's force. When somebody goes who does not have that sensitivity, then of course they are looking at the room and what this place is like, what would it have been and what are these little trinkets on the side and then they still come away with an impact, not always aware of what they've experienced. And recently there was somebody who had been similarly to the Matrimandir, who had no exposure to any spiritual. It was a group of people. They had no exposure to anything spiritual ever in their life. And I happened to meet them just after. And for many of them it was an overwhelming experience. And I asked, well, what did you experience and some of them said the sound was, the silence was deafening, it was so silent, it was noisy almost, overwhelming. So that that was one side and they actually said, 'we have never experienced this kind of silence in our life'. And so they had no means to adapt to or they had no readiness to receive something which had such a powerful impact. And another person said, I was looking at everybody, and it is as if everybody was sitting there without moving, and everybody was dead. And they were all dead people. And we went in. We didn't know whether to smile, because nobody was smiling. All the attendants were looking at us very seriously. So we tried to smile, and then we held back. So remember, they were going as tourists practically and so there was an expectation of some tourist excitement or entertainment but instead they found everyone serious which for them was uncomfortable but they adapted to that seriousness of it but they couldn't take the impact of it. So anyway going through that interaction with them I made the person aware that what they described as everybody being as if dead was the sense of unreality of forms and appearances and he said, 'yes, yes, that's what it is'. You see there is no vocabulary to articulate an experience, and I said it was in relation to something else within you which felt much more deep and real and he said, 'yes yes, that's what it is'. And so it was a deep spiritual experience.

Narad (0:04:49):
Most of them are members of this group?


Sraddhalu (0:04:53):
Yes, everybody had a deep experience, but only one had a familiarity with the spiritual space and so could take it in the way it would register normally. Everybody else had a disorienting experience and for some of them, one of them even had a very powerful experience, closing eyes, he said, I just found myself going into a trance state, I have no memory of what happened. And then he had a dramatic experience of an exploding ball of light. And after that he didn't know what to do because the explosion was so intense, his head banged against the wall. But the point was, in each of them there was this sense of being overwhelmed and then a complaint that never in our life we have been experienced with something like this or we have never been prepared for something like this. And it made me feel a little sad because there are such fine people, young people, who will surely influence many more, many of them are teachers, but they had no base, having grown to that age, nothing was given of, which familiarized them with steps.

Narad (0:06:00):
This was the reason I wanted them to go to Sri Aurobindo's room. Because I find that not enough is being taught of Mother and Sri Aurobindo. And much more needs to be done in that area.


Sraddhalu (0:06:25):
That's the complaint we have even in Auroville, there is no teaching about Sri Aurobindo or the Mother in the Auroville schools. In the ashram school even, the teaching is nominal and so it's a real problem and I think we have had a longer discussion about this, that we have not done enough to bring the living teaching, not as just a theoretical, academic, a living teaching and its implied practice, to the awareness of the people who are even coming here, who want to learn, who want to know, and even when people come for the darshans or even as casual visitors, there is no organised effort to bring awareness of what this place stands for, or what Sri Aurobindo and the Mother represent or what their teaching is at least in terms of how it can impact their life or their perspective and world view. And this needs to be done.

Narad (0:07:25):
I know two people who meet and speak to the people going into the Matrimandir. If that were a possibility here in the ashram before people enter the samadhi, it would be something very powerful. It would give them some basis of why they were going around this, and around this tomb or whatever they want to think about it.

Sraddhalu (0:07:45):
Yes, I have occasionally seen there are groups which come from abroad and there is a guide, tour guide which is telling them stuff and then I found one of the women running across to the whole group saying, "Hey I just discovered that thing is a tomb", and that's all. Thats all it meant finally.

Narad (0:08:07):

Yes, well we have some very interesting questions here and one of these is about stars and galaxies. How can flying saucers reach other stars without spending years to travel and then consequent to that what will be the fuel the energy they use to travel and what is the zero point energy or free energy? Good question.

Sraddhalu (0:08:42):
We have to put this in context with our discussion last time. Yes. Where the two important ideas, first was that everywhere in the universe, wherever there is matter, there has to be life. Wherever there is life, there has to be mind, consciousness emergent. Because there is an involution, and this is Sri Aurobindo's part of the basic philosophy, that a spiritual consciousness reduces itself, involves to become mind, life and eventually matter and locked into matter, eventually life pushes out to emerge everywhere without exception. This is a very important idea which should be part of our textbooks as children. We should have grown up with the idea that everywhere life exists. Now it may have evolved to different degrees and we may then recognize that our earth is one of the youngest planets. 4 billion years at least according to science and there are out there suns which are much older and there, solar systems which are much older and so if in 4 billion years we can get to where we are, throw in another few million years, barely a few percentages more or throw in half a billion years more, and that would be barely 10%, 12% more. And how much could happen for us? How much more we could evolve if we continued at this pace? And out there, obviously, there have to be civilizations which are that much evolved, or even more evolved. And some which are less evolved. Or planets where life is less evolved. And so, our perspective of the universe changes. We have to now recognize if there are literally trillions of galaxies and in each galaxy trillions of stars and for each star at least a few dozen planets, a dozen planets, and upon some of them at least life evolving, there has to be lots of life but all kinds of life equally. So the diversity of life forms emergent on earth is so great and just because the human being has evolved to become conscious mind, does not mean that others cannot evolve given enough time. So equally there could be life forms elsewhere which are amphibious but which are reasoning thinking beings. So last time we also touched upon this idea that that there is a prototype framework for the thinking conscious being which is this five pointed star as we described it. So this is the second important idea that evolution being everywhere in the material plane, in the universe, obviously if they have evolved sufficiently they should be able to travel across great distances. And then the question is how do they do it? Have they visited us? The evidence from the human past going back even a few thousand years is overwhelming that we have been visited by beings from other planets. Now we could say they are coming from our own earth, maybe there are civilizations inside the earth who are coming out and visiting us but that would not explain why they would remain hidden for so long and it does not explain the fact that many of them who have visited the earth and met with human beings have told them we have come from such and such planet or star system. There is this classic example of a tribe in Africa which worships a particular star, the Dogon star I believe or is it Dogon tribe?

Audience (0:12:26):
It's a Dogon country.

Sraddhalu (0:12:28):
Dogon country.

Audience (0:12:29):
It's in Mali I think.

Sraddhalu (0:12:30):
In Mali. And they look at a particular star which is sacred for them. And so when the Europeans visited them, they said, well what is it about the star? They looked at the myths around it. And the Dogon people have this belief that it's a twin star. It's not one star, it's two revolving around each other. It's a binary star and there are planets around it and beings from that planet have come and met them and given them basic knowledge of life. And so when this was first recorded our telescopes were not powerful enough to actually be able to see what the star was like. Subsequently our telescopes confirmed it's a binary star. Now how do you explain that? Here is a very ancient tradition that says there is a binary star and people from there have come and taught them. And equally we will find across many of the civilizations of the earth, the Pleiades have a special place. That's a bunch of seven stars as we see them from here, but with telescopes we can see it's an entire cluster of stars. And subsequently we discover in recent times, beings from the Pleiades who have come and met with human beings, who have a human appearance, indistinguishable from other beings, human beings on the earth. The advantage of course for them is that the human type is so varied, we have so many distinctions among races that if somebody comes who has a particular type he inevitably ends up resembling something or the other among the human races. And so it's easy for them to blend in if they are of similar type. But these beings coming, then speaking to human beings saying, 'we're here to warn you that you should not be exploding atom bombs', for example. We find a large cluster of experiences of flying saucers because they are disc shaped, they come and land, people come out and meet with human beings, go away and sometimes with repeated contact, they take time to learn the human languages in order to be able to interface with us and so on. But I was speaking of evidence going far back. You have paintings in old churches in Europe going back 500 years, which show flying discs with light radiating around. You have cave paintings which show flying discs. We recently discovered in India in Chhattisgarh, there is a whole system of paintings on caves which are dated going back more than 5000 years, which show human beings wearing spacesuits and flying saucer-shaped discs with light radiating and all these point to the fact that humanity has been visited for a very long time.

The question of course is how do they travel so fast? How much time do they take to travel? Maybe they travel for a few hundred years because according to current science, you cannot go faster than the speed of light. If that is the case, then the nearest star system from us is four light years away. That means if you travel at the speed of light, it will take you four years. Since you can't travel at the speed of light, it will take you at least, at the very least, a dozen years, maybe more, just to go from one end to the other. How do you survive in space and what kind of propellant do you have which can keep you going for 12 years and then slow down and then come back so from our current technology, it's impossible to be able to do that. But we can certainly conceive that in time the technologies could improve. Is there a framework with which we can understand this? So there are two ways to approach this. One is look at the evidence of what beings from those planets have said to human beings when they meet, of how they travel. And I have looked at a lot of this literature. There are several kinds of propulsion systems which are recorded. One of the things which we have seen, I mean by we, humanity, has seen when these flying saucers come in Earth's atmosphere, they travel extremely fast, much faster than anything which we have of human technology. So the earliest recent recordings of their interactions with humans or challenges to human space flight or aeronautics is during the Second World War when certain flying craft were seen paralleling the British planes planes except that they would fly along, they were like glowing balls and then suddenly they would zoom off at high speed and leaving behind no wake, no shaking of the air which would have shaken the plane otherwise.
[Narad] So the movement is silent?
[Sraddhalu] Absolutely silent, no sound and then they move at the pace of the plane, when the plane turns they follow, so intelligent life and then suddenly they zoom off just like that vertically and so fast that literally they seem to vanish.
[Narad] What were they doing?
[Sraddhalu] They were observing. Because a lot of things were happening during the Second World War. There were efforts to develop dangerous weapons particularly nuclear weapons which had created for them sent out dangerous signals here's a civilization on the brink of self-destruction. So they came...
[Narad] Hitler was intent on developing this new weapon.
[Sraddhalu] Yes, and there is evidence that in fact they developed many advanced weapons. Some of them had similarities to nuclear explosions. Others were even more effective in that they could create the equivalent of a nuclear explosion but without the radioactive waste. And these are currently used, the same weapons have been developed and more refined, from the US it's called the MOAB, now the technical term is different but the common terminology of the abbreviation is Mother Of All Bombs. What it does is, it releases a fine mist of propellant and then lights it up. So it creates a massive explosion spanning half a kilometre or more. But it burns it up and because it burns, it creates a suction and so it pulls air from outside. So it sucks out the oxygen, the air from outside rushes. So there's an explosion outward followed by an implosion inward which is enough to destroy everything. Nothing survives, no life form. But depending on how it is used, sometimes buildings can survive. Or depending on how it is done again, buildings may also be equally flattened out. But these kinds of weapons were developed at that time. So obviously for any higher intelligence or more developed race who has been probably through similar passages, because it is a developmental passage of the intellect really. The intellect sees why the ego now wanting to take upon nature's powers and turn them against your own humankind. And Sri Aurobindo documents this beautifully in Savitri. That passage is inevitable for every civilization at some point or other. And they've been through it, they're worried for you. And so there were a series of contacts with beings from other planets, coming in the late 40s, early 50s. Many of them were recorded by the military of all these countries because they were wondering is it the Soviets coming to the US and the Soviets were wondering is it the Americans coming to the USSR and they would monitor these things. When they would send a missile to knock it out, this thing would just zip around and there was no way to hit them.

Narad (0:20:26):
Last time you spoke about them targeting missiles and bringing them down. So these flying saucers were susceptible to being destroyed?

Sraddhalu (0:20:40):
Yes. So there were examples where human beings tried to knock them out in order to reverse engineer the technology. In most cases they would try to avoid. Occasionally they did get knocked down, not by missile, not by bullets, but when high energy beams were sent towards them. So when a radar system was developed which was so powerful, it could mess up their internal electronics. Some of them did crash. And the US military is on record for having set up such systems at many places where flying saucers were regularly coming. And what it did was of course the same UFOs had to come, unidentified flying saucers, had to come, either avoid those spaces or had to come at a level which was semi-materialized. So that's part of the technology some of them have, not all. Some of them are entirely bound to the physical processes. They still use methods of propulsion which are very efficient which we will discuss. But there are others which also semi-dematerialize and then they can move at rapid pace without being bound to the gross physical laws. They seem to have practically no inertia. So the flying saucer goes like that and then zips left, goes zigzag and nothing in our physics can explain this. If you're flying at a speed which is five times the speed of sound and then you make a sudden right hand turn, it's enough to kill everybody inside. But you cannot even make it because the propulsion involved would push one way and you'd still end up making a curve because of the inertia.

Narad (0:22:21):
And it would be so many Gs that the body would just disintegrate.

Sraddhalu (0:22:24):
Exactly. So the only way this can be done is if you are somehow able to neutralise inertia. So for the beings inside, they will feel nothing. They are flying at high speed one way, they make a sharp turn, they feel no momentum at all. Now is this possible? So two things are required. First, the ability to neutralise inertia. Second thing is the ability to overcome gravitation. And then the third thing would be, to have the enormous energy necessary, the propellant or energy source, to be able to sustain this kind of thing for whatever distance or time that it takes. And it would have to be huge, obviously, to lift such something which is so big. Now how big are these? They have documented disks which are about this size, which are recorded with cameras. And many of the crop circles have been visited by disks like that which seem to create the crop circles. They have larger disks which are about 30 feet in diameter and these are often what they call scout ships, smaller ships which can move around on the planet and then when they go out of the atmosphere, they join with a larger mothership which can be half a kilometre or one kilometre in length. That's the type which I had seen over Pondicherry, which we discussed last time. And so the smaller things go inside the bigger thing and then the bigger thing moves with a different propulsion or much faster. Cigar shaped is how they called it. Now, the three things need to be viewed. How do you overcome inertia? How do you overcome gravitation? How do you have energy? Now, all of this seems almost science fiction-ish, as if something to be done in the future. You will be surprised to know, experiments to do these three things are recorded in the 1930s as early as 1920s and for some reason the documentation is there, reports are there, magazines publish the results of these experiments and some of them are dramatic. For some reason all of this is as if held withdrawn, kept away from textbooks so that humanity may not have access to the technology and the implications that the technology has and so just briefly look at the implication. What if you had a way to neutralise gravity and move at rapid speed, sitting in a little device the size of a car? What would you do? Where would your car go? Remember you can float off and go anywhere. Where would you go? You'd fly up, you'd wander all over the earth. What's your mood? Shall we go across to the other side of the earth? And it'll take you barely half an hour to get there at the speeds that you can, or maybe less. So let's go for a picnic on the other side of the world. Suddenly, passports and visas have no value. You cannot prevent people from going anywhere where they want and since you're travelling vertically, you go up, you travel where you want and land on someone's terrace. No privacy, and if a terrorist decides to use this as a vehicle, well you have a built-in missile which can travel at high speed, knock into anything. So if you think about the rationale of holding back the technologies. It makes a lot of sense, if the civilization is still crude, still has people who are crazy and want to harm and destroy others or do not respect each other and so on. So maybe that may be a justification for holding back. But on the other hand, precisely because the technologies are held back, you have unequal development and oppression from one part of humanity over others.

Narad (0:26:04):
You spoke... two things I wanted to pick up. One of them is about these science fiction writers. Because Mother says that nothing can be imagined that isn't already in existence. And some of them have written extraordinary works about this very thing we are talking about.

Sraddhalu (0:26:30):
In fact many writings which were science fiction 50 years ago became the norm today. Yes. Isn't it? In fact the Mother herself records what she sees of the future in a way that at that time you had no vocabulary for. I give an example. She is speaking on the use of money and then she says at a certain point she says you know eventually in the future the whole thing will change it will become a barter system but that's still far away and that's what she wanted in Auroville, to be free of money. But before that she says, now remember she's seeing something and trying to describe how it works, she says they will find a way to somehow connect all the financial transactions with the central location, so that when you go and make purchase, you'll have no physical money and the amount which you are paying will be deducted from your account and credited to the other fellow's account. Of course she is using a different vocabulary but the idea is this that you do not carry physical money. Somewhere in one centre the transaction is actually made of a transfer of numbers from one person to another and they'll find a way to connect from that centre to where you are. Now imagine in the 1950s, when she says this, people will say, 'oh this is impossible, how can you connect a great distance with radio waves? no, but you can't have radio waves for each person, it would be unimaginable'. Today with your mobile phone you're doing that all the time, you're completely cashless in certain parts of the world and so it's something like this. You glimpse a future and you glimpse it because it's already waiting to emerge, it's already waiting to actualize itself or maybe in other parts of the universe it has actualized and you glimpse those things and try to articulate them. Sometimes they are things of the subtle worlds that you glimpse so many of the what we call fantasy fiction, involves gnomes and elves and things like that and some of them can, dragons flying and all those things, they belong to the subtler worlds which are glimpsed by the writer and articulated here. But here is the interesting thing, in the physical world which is evolutionary, all possibilities of the subtle worlds are trying to actualize, and if they are trying to actualize, then eventually they have to succeed and if not on our earth, on some other planets surely.

Narad (0:28:59):
Could these not be also occult worlds?

Sraddhalu (0:29:02):
Yes, they are occult worlds for us but whatever is there is trying to actualize in the physical world. So given enough time, somewhere in the universe they will find an entry point to organise themselves. And dragons do exist. If we look back at our own past, we have pterodactyls which are dragon-like, but maybe a dragon which breathes fire may belong to the subtle worlds, but in the physical world it may not breathe fire the same way, but it may still give out certain gases which are overwhelming. Methane, for example, which could burn, and so something of that recognized, is what you see as, in the vision as fire. Could be!

Narad (0:29:41):
Earlier you spoke about these human like beings fitting in with other humanity because of the divergence of all races. Sri Aurobindo and Mother speak it. I know it is tangential but it's an important point that the mixing of races, perhaps you could maybe comment on that a little bit because we see a lot more of this today than we've ever seen. It used to be a kind of bigotry,  not to marry someone who was a different colour or a different race or a different religion.

Sraddhalu (0:30:18):
Yes, it's fascinating to see how this works, because if you consider why people would not marry across races or across nationalities or across cultural or linguistic boundaries. Why wouldn't they in the past? And why do they want to do it now? There is nothing which human beings have done to make that change. It's happened by itself. And the explanation comes from this deeper perspective. Mother explains that earlier nature made an effort to develop specialised types. And having created those extremes of specialisation in each direction of type, it was sometime in the 60s that Mother said that nature has decided to mix everything together and there would be sudden outburst of a variety of rich, inter-typical variations. And so this is a strategy nature uses. Sri Aurobindo explains this in the Synthesis of Yoga. He says nature's method of evolution is to create two divergent points in an exaggerated extreme and then bring them together to create a rich blend, and then again create a divergence and then again enrich by joining. So they are repeatedly these movements of specialisation and then coming together. He makes this as a general statement before he moves on to the discussion of yogic systems where he says nature has equally developed specialisations of yogic systems in order to again bring them back together in an integral framework. So people don't recognize that he is talking of something much more profound than just yogic systems. It's a strategy of nature which he uses in the genetic development, in the cultural development, in linguistic development, in everything. In every variation and development of species. And so we are at a phase since the 1960s, Mother said, nature decided to bring everything together and mix. And suddenly you find these types, people now willingly marrying across these boundaries or coming together and working together across boundaries and the vehicle of the internet as a framework of communication has been the most powerful to bring humanity together.

Narad (0:32:40):
Will this break down some of the traditions of certain countries and certain peoples.

Sraddhalu (0:32:53):
Yes. So what would decide whether this mix takes place or the exclusive tenancy remains? And the rationale which we have looked at is, nature decides. Nature inside people puts an impulse to do this or not do this, to move in this direction and not in the other. So it's really a choice nature makes whether to preserve the special types in their specialised unique corners or even to let it go. Sri Aurobindo makes an observation about this when he is, in his articles on civilizational development in the Human Cycle. He speaks of how the pure types were developed at a certain stage after that nature begins the blending process. You do not see anymore those pure types, he says, except in a particular extreme in some corner, but they are so small in number that they barely survive and it's a question of nature's whims. If she says no need to preserve, it's lost. If she says alright, there's a point in preserving a few samples of that type, she will keep an impulse in a few people that says, no we will not do that and they become like a little point somewhere, keeping that pure extreme specialisation and that still exists in certain kinds of religions and certain types of cultural interests also.

Narad (0:34:19):
But it doesn't obviate what Mother said about having the pavilions in Auroville with people's cultures.

Sraddhalu (0:34:27):
So the objective here, remember, is not creating a uniformity. Nature wants diversity. But for a rich diversity, what is it that will be the nourishing stream? If you blend too much, then there is no distinct source. So the goal for nature is to be, that's why her strategy is first to build up these specialisations which then become the origin for the nourishing streams. But the goal for nature through it, is to retain what the specialisation represented as a principle. Which is why today we are seeing these two different movements in the world. One is an attempt to blend all cultures and mix them into uniformity. And instinctively the national identities or cultural units pulling back from that mixture of globalisation to protect their unit. And Sri Aurobindo was very clear about this that nature wants to hold the national unit and with it of course, the cultural type and values that that unit represents. So in Auroville, Mother wanted that each of these units should be represented in a pavilion of the culture, of the best and highest and most uplifting aspects of the culture, which it has to share with humanity. Now that's happening on a global scale, but remember Auroville is a miniature world, so you also represent each of those cultures in their pavilions, so that they become the nourishing sources for those values in the mini world that Auroville represents.

Narad (0:36:04):

So we get back to our main subject and free energy and zero point energy.


Sraddhalu (0:36:10):

And overcoming gravitation and things like that. So what is fascinating is there is a, for example, a series of articles in the 1920s, written by one American scientist, who was experimenting with something and by accident, discovered that every time that he switched on a high voltage device for X-rays, the whole object where he was putting the field, it moved. So, subsequently developing it, he discovered that it had nothing to do with any other electrical effect, it had a gravitational character. So, it was called the Biefeld-Brown effect because of the names of the two people who worked on it. Townsend Brown was the scientist. He then has a whole article which is available even today, 'How I Control Gravitation'. That's the name of the article. He describes in detail how to create this effect and he documents how when you repeatedly apply this effect, like that can be made to move against gravity and stay up. And how do you explain this? With current physics you do not explain it. And it is documented. He tells you how to make it. In those days, unfortunately we didn't have video recorders. But you have the drawings and the data of his papers which are published. And subsequently he develops that technology particularly during the Second World War because the military got very interested in it. He develops it and the first demonstration he makes to the US Navy is so dramatic because he creates a flying disc which moves at such a high speed. It is so dramatic that they classify the demonstration. And then he is moved into some secret program where they are trying to develop those technologies. If you look at his patents, the shape of his device is disc-like because of the nature of the high voltages used and he is conceptualising a long torpedo shaped or cigar shaped object for high speed propulsion and they are all part of his patents which are available. That's right, you found it. You just have to search the name Townsend Brown and you will find a lot of literature on this. Except that, afterwards there is an attempt to suppress all that technology and it is classified.
[Narad] And one can understand with the Cold War and everything else.
[Sraddhalu] Absolutely. But this is one example. But there are many streams of such technology. I will give another example. This was in London. A scientist working on developing different kinds of antenna. So he creates a spiral shaped antenna and he finds that when he pulses it in a particular way, the whole antenna rather than broadcasting radio waves simply floats up into the air. Antigravity. Now how simple is it? All you have to do is pulse a particular shaped coil in a particular way and you have antigravity and the natural shape of it is a long cylinder, cigar shaped. Now this is all going back to 1920s.

Sraddhalu (0:39:17):
Let's Fast forward now, after the Second World War when many of these technologies were actually activated and taken up seriously because now you needed it for the Cold War. In 1950, 51, 52, 53, you will find a series of articles appearing in all the major defence journals and aeronautical journals. With the then CEO or managing director of Boeing, Northrop and all the British, I don't remember the terms of those companies anymore, all these people working in building aeroplanes. The heads of these companies now making public statements that we are at the end of the aeronautical age. What's aeronautics? Aeronautics is when you have a plane wing and the air has to flow over the wing to give it a lift. That's aeronautics. And they say we are at the end of the age of aeronautics because once you overcome gravity, you don't care the shape of the wings. In fact, you don't want wings and you don't need them. And so you should be able to move fast, you don't want wings and you don't need aeronautics, what happens when aeronautics ends? Then you move into anti-gravity. Then speaking of gravitation control, gravitational modification, and all this is happening by the biggest names of these companies making crafts up to 1953. And there are, in those days, all the popular science journals, even now one is called Popular Science. They had these articles about the anti-gravity age, which is imminent, within a few years. Okay some of them say within two years, we're going to announce this. Now they're not saying this if they have not already done the research. I've seen a video in which the head of Skunkworks, which is the specialised research unit of, what's the company? Northrop?. no..whats the other, well one of these military companies, one of the biggest ones, the head of research, he is saying that you know in those days we had discovered that if you take two magnets and you force the north and north side of each, you know north pulls south, north repels north, you force it together and tie it and then you drop a magnet like this versus another object, the object where you forced the north and north to be together it falls slower than the other. Okay now here's a very simple magnetic mechanism you can test at home to demonstrate a shift in gravity and he's saying this in, I believe it was in the 90s just before he died, he said so we were experimenting with these technologies and doesn't go further because after that it gets classified. But the point being all this knowledge was available and it was imminent and then suddenly in 1953-54 they all go silent.

Narad (0:42:13):
And now it's 65 years from now.

Sraddhalu (0:42:16):
Exactly. They all go silent and the next thing you see, in all these journals they begin to ridicule the concept of anti-gravity. And now the whole media, the entire educational system is drilled in with ridiculing of anti-gravity where the biggest names in the industry were saying it is imminent within a year or two at that point. Why? And this is a question to think about. Why would they all go silent suddenly? And it can't be just military. It can't be just we will protect our secrets from someone else and the understanding which I have from whatever studies I have made, is that the technology is so simple. To overcome gravity or to draw enormous amounts of energy, it is so simple that anybody sitting in their garage with a little bit of skill can hack it together. And if you can hack it, then how do you control people? how do you control borders? how do you control the global economy which is based on oil? You can't. And so a decision was made because it was so easy to turn the full attention of the world away from these directions of exploration, by ridiculing etc. And one of the reasons why the whole knowledge of and information of the photographs of, measurements of flying saucers, all of which are military data recorded many of them declassified today. The reason why all this was suppressed is so that people will not start thinking in that direction, because the moment you see a flying saucer come and land silently with no exhaust fumes, you ask how do they fly. And when you see the phenomena around them, you are convinced, they go up and float, you are convinced that they have anti-gravity and if they can do it why can't I?

Narad (0:44:09):
So who has done this? The Cabal?

Sraddhalu (0:44:12):
It's the Cabal. Well the group which has done it, we call them the Cabal who want to keep the world somehow in the grip. They want you to be their slaves and for that you cannot enslave people. This, the second world war has changed the world completely. You cannot enslave people by putting them in cages and behind barbed wires. You can only enslave them in the mind. And so the entire educational system has been warped to prevent you from thinking in certain directions for which you have to kill creativity. Otherwise people will inevitably go in the right direction. So you have to create strong forces to discourage by ridiculing, do not talk about this, talk about that and then hypnotise people to worry about things which are trivial and meaningless. Keep them, you know the communists spoke of religion as the opiate of the masses well that's not true. It is entertainment industry which is the opiate of the masses. So you keep watching TV, watch television, get sucked into some kind of a crude lower vital enjoyment and entertainment, never turning to higher things. And if a few people turn to the higher things, well you have to co-opt them and put them into slots where they are busy doing things which go away from those areas they don't want you to know. And here is the problem. Today for example, if you speak of anti-gravity, even if you demonstrate with rational physics or mathematics, your paper will not be published, because there are certain keywords you are not allowed to use. They don't want you talking or thinking in that direction. Nobody is going to grant you funds. If you control the fund sources for research, you can direct the research in whichever direction you want. So this is the reality we are struggling with today. In spite of this, here is the interesting thing, repeatedly people have continued to discover these technologies. Because anybody who innovates and applies a little bit of reason will find it. And the moment you find it, you start publicising it, they either get knocked out, they die under mysterious circumstances or they suddenly grow silent and their patent is classified or withdrawn, and you see this repeatedly. Yes they are paid for or threatened into silence along with rewards to keep silent and there's so many of them.

Sraddhalu (0:46:45):
I will share with you, unfortunately I've had contact with a few of them and I mean unfortunately because well, they died soon after and it is extraordinary. I have met three people who were involved directly in this kind of research and I discovered them too late and within a year of my meeting them all three of them died and it was as if I was given the opportunity to meet them just to see conclusively yes this is real and there is a rationale behind it, but it was just at the end if it was done sooner perhaps much more could have been done, but that's how it is. So there are things out there and for those who are interested, I will be happy to give links or further reading material of content of this kind. One example I will share with you though, this is a British aeronautical engineer who from the 1950s was in the field extremely creative and insightful. When you read his books, you say wow why didn't I think of that and what he does in one of his first books, he analyses the flying saucers reports. So for example, in one case when a flying saucer came very close, people noticed that there was radio interference. They saw a flying saucer take off, inevitably first they rise slowly and then zip off suddenly. Why don't they zip off from where they are? And occasionally when they do zip off, you find a chunk of the earth pulled out. So, all of these observations allow you to deduce what kind of technology is involved. How does it work? So he applies his engineering mind, based on these observations, he literally rebuilds the foundations of these technologies. And so his first book, which he published, discussed this and went quite deep into the whole matter and remember this was, this must have been the 60s, I think, late 60s that he published his book. It was to be published in the usual letterpress which was all available at that time and he documents how he had the last proofs which he had okayed, it went back and when the printed book came, he said entire paragraphs had been misplaced, words had been replaced and it was trash. And the pile of books which was delivered to him was soggy, wet with water. Now he said it was clear somebody had intervened to damage the work that he had done and he had lost all the, he was printing it of his own money, he lost all his money in the process. Then he began to serialise some of these chapters in the New York Times. So a few chapters came, major newspaper in the US, in New York and after that the rest was to be coming in the book which was to be published in New York. The company which was publishing it suddenly went bankrupt. After printing 4000 copies, they pulped the 4000 copies and they went bankrupt. A year later, the company comes back, it's back in print with all their earlier titles only this one title missing and it goes on and all the money which he had paid for the printing is gone. And when you find repeatedly interventions like that you know that something more serious is afoot and then he documents one more incident where US official from the US military came to visit because he was working in one of the British aeronautical companies. So this official comes for an official visit, he goes through and at the end of the visit he says to the head of the company, for God's sake man, just tell me, stop hiding how far are you with negative gravity, because this man had published this book, they assumed the company was doing research in negative gravity. And so the head of the company scratching his head, he couldn't say no we are not doing because he didn't know what issues were involved. He said, 'oh we have just touched 0.5 percent' and the official gave a broad green satisfied that they were nowhere close and he walks away. Now all of this is part of the documentation of this man's life showing you that everybody was interested in his books, copies of what he finally did print, sold out but after that nobody wanted to print any more copies. Now that book is available for easily but not publicized anymore. So to show you that people have not only discovered but they've always been suppressed because there are forces which don't want this radical change. If you think of it, look back, electric cars were the norm in 1905. Did you know that? They were all electric to begin with because it's the most efficient way of doing it and then it was as if the electric car was killed and instead they brought these fossil fuel based internal combustion engines which took many decades to perfect to become efficient enough even then if you look at internal combustion engines of nineteen seventies and eighties the USA had the most inefficient engines, the Japanese were producing mileage which was like almost double of the US. Why would you do that? Why would you not allow higher efficiency? And it's because of the oil industry which wants to keep people paying money by keeping things inefficient.

Narad (0:52:16):

Wow. Thank you so much. It was wonderful. We'll take a break.