EWS #28: On Mother’s guidelines on what to do and what to aim
Mar 06, 2019
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Narad (0:00:54):
Welcome to our continuing series, Evenings with Shraddhalu. Tonight, we welcome you and welcome your wisdom.Any specific topics you would like to speak on today?
Sraddhalu (0:01:03):
In the ashram, when Mother conceived of the space and sought to organise all the activities of life on a spiritual foundation, she was revolutionary and she saw things far away. Two guidelines she gave, one she said was, whatever people are already doing out there you should not repeat, because there are enough people who are already doing it. We don't want to repeat It. There is even one of the aphorisms of Sri Aurobindo, where it says 'not to go on repeating what man has done before, but to arrive at new' something about you know something which is transcending all these things to arrive at new something. So Mother's first guideline was do not repeat, and second, in terms of what you aim to do, not how you do but what you aim to do, try to aim at that which others cannot even conceive as possible, because if they can conceive something as possible that's already within a very narrow range of possibility. What they cannot even conceive as possible allows you to see far beyond. But it makes that you are looking at a future well beyond the sum total of the current. Why was this important? Because we are in a transitional age. Almost all the forms of today are products of the past. Almost all of them would have to undergo a massive change. A change so radical that even to think about it we will say, oh is that even possible? And so she wanted us to look at that and work for that. And she herself set the standard. In the music that she was encouraging in the ashram and we're not speaking of the basic voice training exercises that students had, but the attempt to bring down something of a higher order. She set the standard with her Organ music that she was playing, not that most people can appreciate what it is, but what she brought down represented a pure music from a very deep or very high domain which we can appreciate when we are in that deeper or higher state and then it's something so amazing. But then with the musicians in the ashram, the work that she did to bring and help to develop something new, Sunil was one of the musicians where she even said to him that she would play through his hands. And that's the kind of infusion that she made for all these forward seeing breakthroughs. You were one of the instruments through whom she worked to bring down, she is working to bring down the new music.
Narad (0:04:25):
And she said, I have no preconceived idea as to what will come down.
[Sraddhalu] And so what I want to say was not only was this the standard for the ashram but in Auroville equally, the whole the same concept was taken to look forward to something of the distant future which is impossible now to be realised today. That's the goal we have to have as our reference. But I want to also point that this is how increasingly people should think of things who are connected with the Mother and Sri Aurobindo in their own life. Aim for something which is farther, which is not simply a product of the present and in this way, in the space you are at, wherever you are in the world, in whatever work you do, you can become a centre through which something of that new consciousness can begin to articulate itself. Bringing it in the context of the ashram in Uruvel, there is a phrase used by many people when they look at what Mother said as a guideline or what she conceived of, someone will say, 'you know we have to accept what is practical and we should be able to recognize that. Certain things are an ideal that will happen later but that's not practical enough and we should stay with the practical', and that is a serious error. Practicality can be an excuse to fall back to the repetition of the past. The beauty of the ideal is that it is not bound to a form. It can manifest in an existing form right now. And then you have to see what is doable now in terms of form and just do it and build on it in the direction of the ideal. And if we take it in that spirit, everything is doable. That's what she did. She started Auroville, she created the ashram. You could have said this is an ideal, it's not practical, no, it is doable and we are moving towards the ideal that should be our reference always.
If you take Mother's guidelines, they are so practical, so down to earth, if you take them literally you can make sure you can do everything that is required. So this was emerging from the discussion we had last time about the difficulty people have in living up to the ideal. But I believe this has to be done everywhere on earth, wherever people are aligned to the new consciousness. In India today, in the last let's say two years, there have been many efforts to try to capture something in this direction. But here you're working in a much more mixed space where there are all kinds of interests. So the present Prime Minister of India, Modi, Narendra Modi put forward a proposal that all of India's vehicles should become electrified. We should phase out all the diesel engines and petrol engines and all cars should become electrical. Now think about what it means. A normal car, diesel or petrol has about 2000 separate components which have to be fitted together which can break down which can fall out of sync etc and it's very expensive. An electric car has 20 components. A hundredfold reduction in separate components, hundredfold reduction in failure rate, hundredfold reduction, well we can't say in cost but in incremental cost which comes with parts. And then because you have got rid of the gearbox, you have got rid of the transmission, you have got rid of carburetor and whole lot of other things, your reliability shoots up. What's next? How do you charge it? Every house can have its own little solar collector which charges the battery and combine it with a little battery for the night. So your collector in India, we have lots of sun, your battery charges in the morning, at night it transfers the charge to your car. For a city, the distance you need to travel is far less. You do not need massive batteries to go far. If you think in these terms, right now it's a criminal waste to have petrol or diesel cars and the concept that the Prime Minister had should in fact be implemented yesterday. And if we start doing it today, within four years we can be completely solar car based and yes old cars will stay, they will undergo a change etc. And looking at this as an example, you could say it's an ideal or you could say what is doable and start doing it now.
Narad (0:09:51):
Tesla and BMW are both working in these areas, can you talk a little bit about that?
Sraddhalu (0:09:58):
Tesla was revolutionary in bringing the electric car against huge resistance from the industry and you have to understand in the background of what I already said. Why the industry resists. The moment your car is electric, you can charge it at home, you don't need to buy petrol and so the entire petroleum industry is against you having electric cars. Second, the repair shops and and any kind of maintenance, because it drops your number of parts is a hundredth, your breakdowns are less, then the money that the company has made selling you cars, they make twice as much in the repairs that you do over the lifetime of the car. now they will lose that so they oppose it. Third, if you have a car which is so stable it will last so much longer that they will not earn so much money, you won't be buying cars every 10 years or 20 years or whatever it is. So they don't want, they are going to lose money. Everybody was against it. In fact, in the late 90s, General Motors had come out with a electric car which was such a success that they withdrew it and killed it. Look up online a documentary called who killed the electric car and it documents this whole thing. They killed it because they realised that all of these benefits that they have to keep you enslaved to their system and dependent on them that would go away.
Sraddhalu (0:11:32):
So when Tesla came up, Elon Musk had a vision an idealistic vision with all these forces saying, no it's impossible, he actually did it. Now obviously to make it self-sustaining against this enormous resistance he followed a strategy to make high-end cars first because people will pay more, etc and using that to build the lower end less expensive cars and so on. At each step he has been thwarted and attacked by the entire system, even today. They were short selling his stocks to kill his company and the stocks were falling because they were short selling and he played a game. He knew what was happening, so he made a tweet saying I'm going to go private and buy out my shares at a high price and I've already got the funding. Instantly the shares shot up and all those who were short selling went into massive losses, all his enemies. So what did they do? They bribed or approached the Securities and Exchange Commission to criticise him on the tweet, declaring it as a manipulation of market and forcing him off from chairmanship of his company on that ground, to allow someone else whom they can control to get in. All kinds of weird stuff. They were deliberately putting their agents to be hired by him who were sabotaging the assembly line of the cars, just to delay and spoil the product and the name. It's amazing what kind of opposition has been put before him but this is to tell you that the problem is not so much in realising the ideal. It's in the entrenched organised resistance against the forward movement of evolution. And it all boils down to short-term interests and an attempt to organise those interests in a way that nobody can prevent them. It's what we spoke of earlier as the cabal, which works together simply to prevent the forward progress because it keeps them with their benefits. But what still Elon has done is revolutionary and it has forced other car manufacturers now to start catching up with what he has demonstrated is so much more beneficial and practical.
Narad (0:14:05):
Does the hybrid car have much longevity?
Sraddhalu (0:14:11):
So if you think about the logic of the hybrid car, the idea was well, electricity is not going to take you very far, because you can only charge so much, your batteries can carry so much, so you should have a backup of petrol, diesel. To be able to run an electric motor and a petrol, diesel motor at the same time makes the car that much more complicated. So it actually defeats the whole point of the electric car. But in the programming of human thinking, it says, ah, now you have electric, you are going green, but it costs more, it's less efficient it breaks down more easily and that's the proof that see electric is not so practical, go back to your petrol. So they play this game against your thinking and if you are not careful you get sucked into it. So all these companies were happy to have hybrid cars because it was bound to fail but they were all against electric cars because it was going to be a grand success. Still it can happen in India, the resistance and opposition is just from entrenched interests and this is the case everywhere. This is the reason why when Mother started Auroville, she started on a blank slate physically, psychologically, even spiritually. It was a blank slate on which she began. It was a desert land and everybody came with that intention and it had to be built from scratch. So there are many such ideals which are presented wrongly as something distant or impossible, but if you look at the form in which you can execute today, it's right there available now where you can start. And that was Mother's effort in doing things.
Narad (0:16:07):
Any further questions? Mother said perhaps 300 years would pass before the superman would be on earth. But she said there would be many steps. Can you speak about those, the Surom as she called them I think, and the different evolutionary steps up to the superman?
Sraddhalu (0:16:20):
I think we had a discussion earlier about the 'mind of light' in one of our sessions, but we can cover that in a different way. What the Mother spoke of as 300 years, she said Sri Aurobindo said it 300 years, but for the physical transformation, for the physical body itself to undergo a change, through the pressure of the supramental consciousness, until it acquires, the material of the body itself becomes divinized, that would be 300 years. But equally she used that number in a different way for humanity, she says that in 300 years the human body itself will become so elastic, so plastic that we cannot even imagine what it can do. So what it means is the pressure of the evolution because of the supramental consciousness working, the pressure of it working on human evolution, even for those who do not consciously practise any form of spiritual development or evolution, in their bodies the extension of the elasticity and plasticity of the body would go so much, purely from that action. And then of course in those who work on the body consciousness or the deeper spiritual consciousness to be brought forward, that result would be that much greater. In an example which I came across recently, in a video, they showed people diving underwater, going down to a depth of 100 metres, holding their breath for 10 to 12 minutes at a time. Now physically, biologically this is impossible. If you go down one or two metres the pressure of the water on your lungs is enough to squeeze your lungs and almost doubling the pressure of the air which is on your body right now and you keep going down, the pressure of the water becomes so great it can crush your lungs, break your ribs, just from the pressure. So when dolphins dive very deep, they have ribs which are flexible, the ribs bend, the lungs compress and they go deep, they can hold breath for many minutes, they come up and they don't have the bends. So for those who may not know the bends is when the oxygen has been so squeezed into the blood under pressure, when you suddenly come up, the oxygen starts forming bubbles and suddenly inside your capillaries you have bubbles which burst and if that forms inside the capillaries of the brain then you have bleeding in the brain and well you can die from it or even you can have bleeding from the skin everywhere. So what is normally done is deep-sea divers when they come out after sufficient time, they are put in a chamber with compressed air and slowly decompressed so that bubbles don't fall. But the dolphin is able to go that deep and come up and not have bends. Now when a human being does that, this is the danger. And yet these people are going down 10 minutes, to 100 metres where your lungs should be crushed and they come up and they are fine, they don't have bends. And the question was asked, how is this possible? So scientists now start observing, analysing the blood and they came to the conclusion that once these divers go below a certain level of pressure, a different kind of biochemistry kicks in and the body now processes the oxygen in a different way and somehow it is able to use less oxygen and somehow remain conscious and be functional. They are pumping, they are moving their legs, they are swimming, so how much oxygen are you using up? You can't hold so much in your lungs and all they could say was a different biochemistry, they can't explain what, they can only describe, that's the work of science, but it's possible for the body. So this is the point, they have made them elastic enough that they don't crack. Now the person who started this training, so there are families which have been doing it traditionally in many of the distant islands, in the oceans, they go very deep, they come out and they don't have bends, they can stay for 10 minutes holding their breath. So you might still say, ah but their bodies have adapted. Now there are people who train others to do this. So you can join the training program, they will get you through exercises to make your ribcage flexible enough and then teach you to hold your breath longer and longer and then as you go in something happens and they experience a deep serenity, it's as if your consciousness is no more rooted in the physical senses, something of the inner senses kick in and they go down and they experience the deep peace inside the ocean, they swim for 10 minutes, they are out and the whole thing reverses, they are back to the normal biochemistry. But what it shows you is, they have inadvertently, not consciously, learned to draw prana by other means, which should have been taught through the pranayama exercises, which is part of their training. And the body itself has adopted, it has been taught to do something which is otherwise impossible physically, biologically, even the biochemistry it has adapted to be able to manage that situation. Now this is possible today with a few people with a specialized training. Now fast forward 50 years, you might find your few people have become now numbering in the thousands, the training program instead of taking so many years will happen in so many months and fast forward another hundred years and you might find most human beings capable of things like that, not just this but perhaps even other things and that's the direction if you think of what Mother meant by flexibility that you cannot imagine, that gives you a glimpse of the flexibility human body will adapt to.
Sraddhalu (0:23:15):
If you look at Chinese acrobats and you see their performance, they do such extraordinary things. So you have for example a young girl who is twirling a cloth on a stick and then with other hand another cloth and then with the leg one and with the other leg another and while she's lying on her back doing four of these, throwing them exchanging them. We've all seen these on television, she now starts twisting her body around in a kind of an acrobatic position and still maintaining this. What you see there is plasticity of the body, okay you could train that but with it as such an extraordinary consciousness and coordination developed in the muscles, nerves and tissue. And so seeing them I had an occasion to meet with them and the first question I asked them, 'how long did it take you to train'? And they said two years.
[Narad] Was this in China?
[Sraddhalu] I saw this in Canada, they were doing a demonstration, we had gone, we were taken to see that. But they were Chinese acrobats, they trained in China. And I said, two years? What was your age when you started? I assumed that it would happen very young. No, one of them said 12 years, someone else said 14 years. Okay, your body is relatively plastic at that time, but still it's coming to its own pretty much. And what it did was it opened to me what's possible, if we take the trouble to train in this way. And then I understood what Mother tried to do with the physical training program in the ashram. It was designed to engage every part of the body in developing a skill to make the body as conscious as possible but not pushed to that limit and I wonder what it would be like if we actually pushed the body to that limit early on when it's more easy to do and combine that with the spiritual aspiration in the body. How much more conscious the body could become but how much more it would be receptive to the action of the spiritual force. And if such a body is now put in the influence of the higher consciousness, the progress that it could make would be astounding. The biggest problem we have even in the development of our mind or other parts of our being is the dullness that the body brings, the heaviness, the inertia that it imposes on all these other mental and vital bodies. And if the physical body can be taken to that level of consciousness, even to be receptive there, it opens the way for something so wonderful.
Sraddhalu (0:26:00):
I connected to Mother's own observation. In the 50s there was a group of Russian gymnasts which had come to the playground and they demonstrated these extraordinary skills of gymnastics and afterwards Mother's observation was if they had just a little bit of spirituality, they would have been like the gods. In the body, she valued that so much, to be able to contain it in the body and this is the direction it will have to go.
[Narad] So thats one aspect. What about mind, psychic being, the developments in leading up to the supramental body?
[Sraddhalu] In the training of the mind, Sri Aurobindo suggests in his writings on education, he gives you the requirements to take it further beyond the training of the intellect, towards even of what is called today as psychic powers, telepathy, psychokinesis, remote viewing or extended viewing where you can even see through your skin contact, touch and read with touch and things like that. All of these which are considered right now abnormal also should eventually become part of the educational system when humanity is ready for it of course, but if you think in those terms an education system that from the beginning orients you to these deeper possibilities and unites them along with your external possibilities could take you so much farther. If you have been taught for example to be able to interiorize or open your awareness to the inner mind or the inner vital early on and you begin to tap into that as part of your normal activity of study and learning, your actual learning time of what you learn say in 2 years could be squeezed to a few months. So the gateway that it opens for learning is extraordinary. And it's not something new, it has been done, it was even the norm in our past education systems in India in particular, where children at the age of 12, some of them had the whole of the Mahabharata by heart. The kind of memory that it requires, if you consider the number of verses going to what, a hundred thousand about, to be able to learn that by heart at the age of 12 means your memory was already reasonably developed well before. What did you do in that early stage that was still an enjoyable activity, because you can't force children to do things which are not enjoyable before 10. What was so enjoyable that you actually did and with it developed this power of memory and if it could be done by a few why not by all? And even if not by all to the same degree, even if one tenth of it everyone can do that's a huge gift you can give. And so we will need to review all of our priorities and what we consider normal.
[Narad] Was any part of this ever attempted in the ashram?
[Sraddhalu] Mother wanted, Mother wanted things to be done in a radically different way. As far as I am aware, this kind of an expansion was not consciously done, because I believe the people who were there to teach themselves didn't have access to these abilities or even this kind of specialised knowledge for training. She had to begin with what she had and that included a large number of teachers who were opposed to her ideas of education and resisted what she wanted to do.
[Narad] Especially the free progress, yes.
[Sraddhalu] so there was an incident which Tanmaya-da narrated to us. He was a Frenchman who was one of those who was part of the effort to realise the ideal in education and he said that he was reading something from Sri Aurobindo's writings and then he said, oh but what we are doing is so totally different and he took it to the Mother and said, 'Mother, Sri Aurobindo says like this, why aren't we doing it here in the ashram school', and Mother said, 'at last somebody is thinking'! Imagine what a relief for her when everybody is stuck in, 'I know what I have to teach and I know how to teach and I just repeat what was done to me', and there is a guy who says, hey but Sri Aurobindo says this, can we try it? You have to recognize, she started with humanity that was given to her and sometimes not very smart, not very open.
Narad (0:31:10):
Tanmaya had a silent mind for 10 years. yeah. So we see these developments especially in children. And I have seen an awareness in them that I've never experienced in adults. The other day we were in La Grace and this child who might have been 8 months old never took her eyes off me. Absolutely amazing. Children don't focus like that at that age. Just kept looking, looking, deeper and deeper.
[Sraddhalu] That she had spontaneously the sensitivity and the skill of going deeper into what she was saying. That's something which the soul has brought. And Mother's work was looking forward multiple generations. And so a large number of people who came to the ashram, she said, are not ready for the yoga, not even interested in the yoga. But their souls have brought them here so that they may imbibe this atmosphere in order to prepare for a life of yoga. And she accepted that because she was looking at things in a larger frame. And some of these who are returning in new incarnations, some of those who have done the yoga, returning in a new incarnation, we see some of these unusual features. It relates to a question which had been asked earlier about influence of heredity and the soul's influence. And I think we can take that up.
The three influences Sri Aurobindo speaks of on the child, the first is heredity because your biology is largely an imprint of what comes from your parents. Second, is environment because even before you are born, your biology is really drawing from environmental substance which is being eaten by the mother and the influences, psychological influences she is being subject to and the third is what the soul brings, as its active influence assuming the soul is conscious enough to even infuse an influence. If it is not conscious enough then it is there as a passive influence but still the soul's influence. Between these three there is a constant push and pull. Sri Aurobindo even highlights how much hereditary transmission takes place at a psychological level. So we think of heredity purely in terms of biology. So I inherited a body and with it I assume the psychological tendencies are coming. No, it's not so. Quite a large part of the psychological heredity is taking place even after birth in the transmission. Through the giving of the parents in affection, through the child looking to parents and drawing from them in identification, through spontaneous hero worship. Sometimes the biological parent may not be there, somebody else may take its place. but still the hereditary transmission continues at a psychological level with the non-biological parents equally and that is equally powerful, but all this would still be a kind of heredity because you're receiving an imprint from others which tends to give you a certain tendency, even instinctive behaviour and even pattern of thinking it can go quite deep. And then the environment may be supportive or contrary to it, which further mixes in. The soul coming in has now to deal with all this, which are much more overt, much more powerful, much more pervasive, and what is inside is barely felt or known by the surface personality, and so it has to work through all these. If its influence is strong enough, it can nudge these things slightly and even guide their development. While a hereditary influence may give you a restless vital, the soul's influence may bring a calm into the vital and turn it in a different direction to an energised vital rather than a restless vital. So you can take practically any tendency of positive direction, it's a deformation and becomes a liability. Realign that tendency in a positive direction, it becomes an asset and so the soul's primary influence is to try to nudge these in positive directions and if your environment and education is also helping you to do that, in your thinking, you start nudging slightly more positive, the whole thing can be done very quickly. But in the absence of that, where there is a struggle between the soul's influence and other influences, Sri Aurobindo's observation is that eventually the soul's influence will prevail. It may take time, it may have to overcome whatever other influences suffocate but eventually it will prevail always. And so Mother tried to create a space here in the ashram, where the large imprint which comes from society and from the heredity including the psychological heredity that was removed. So she even encouraged where parents were not very conscious or aligned to the higher ideal, she encouraged students to be in the boarding, under care of one of the ashramites. And she picked always people who were just giving love, who were pure and loving and that they were the heads of Boarding. So the children had a very protected environment and then she would work in them to develop these, infusing her heredity, if you may use the word, her consciousness to form and shape them.
Narad (0:37:36):
I'd like to go back a little bit, relate a couple of stories. I know a young woman in Auroville, she and her husband have had two children now, concentrating in prayer to the Mother at the moment of conception and these children are extraordinary. How... let me tell another instance. A young Polish lady came to the Om choir when she was about six months pregnant, she came every week and until the child was born. And I didn't see the child for two years and when she brought him, it was just such light. So, how much of an effect does this have over heredity and environment?
Sraddhalu (0:38:39):
Absolutely. If you have consciously as parents invoked the Divine Presence at each step, that is the greater heredity than what you have yourself physically given and certainly the more conscious souls yearn for a space like that and parents like that.
Narad (0:39:16):
She told me we simply want to bring back, bring down the highest soul we can. That was their aspiration.
Sraddhalu (0:39:18):
And it's extremely challenging for parents, when the child is so conscious, to have to live to your highest standard in order to keep up, keep pace with the child's requirements and possibilities.
[Narad] I see your mother smiling. <laughter> So these stages to the supramental, one can guess the physical development of the body.
[Sraddhalu] So in terms of consciousness, the immediate step that Sri Aurobindo has focused on is the development of the intuition as the first step arising out of the intellectual consciousness but even further under the influence of the supramental consciousness that our mind itself can free from becoming an instrument of ignorance, and become increasingly an instrument free from ignorance. So by definition the power of our intellectual mind, this band of consciousness, by definition can only work with finite pieces. It can only assemble, join, break pieces. That's all it's able to do. And therefore it cannot go any deeper in terms of knowledge. The intuitive consciousness is able to go much deeper. But can this band of consciousness, because of its habitual tendency of handing pieces, can it still remain operative of pieces but become free of the ignorance that comes with pieces? And so this was the work that Sri Aurobindo did in his own consciousness to develop what he called the mind of light. By identifying within this domain of the mind a certain grade of consciousness which was open and receptive to the super mind, activating that and organising the whole of the mind around that principle, it allows for an influence of the super mind to act within it to a degree that this mind is effectively free of ignorance, it knows its limits but what it knows is correct, precise and still being an instrument of finiteness, it can be free of ignorance and this he says allows us to experience and have the Divine life with the body and its limitations as they are today. We do not have to wait all the way for the supramental body in order to have the experience of the Divine life, it can be done even within this condition and so this was the last thing that he had been working upon, which he imprinted into the Mother and therefore through her into humanity. This is one of the things which one can notice in certain individuals where the mind has been sufficiently quieted and intuitivised. You can see the Mind of Light beginning to organise itself. And so this will allow, through a series of steps, for us to be able to participate and even share in the life divine, while other parts of our being are still in the stages of development and transformation.
Narad (0:42:45):
He speaks of many yogis who can live easily two to three hundred years, but there is not that aspect of transformation of the body.
Sraddhalu (0:42:58):
Yes, that was never conceived as even possible except in the Tantric tradition briefly that possibility was seen which you see in the west in the alchemical tradition which is an offshoot from the Tantric principles from the East. And so they had the knowledge and they saw it symbolically or they used the twilight language of the base metals turning into gold. But the process which had an elemental form in the metals, had a psychological form and a spiritual form internally in the consciousness. And this idea that the physical consciousness could be transformed was there, but otherwise the body had always been neglected in most of these traditions. When Sri Aurobindo began to work on the supramental transformation of the body and this we have to distinguish, the word transformation is too loose, you can have a mental transformation of the body. Your body as it is, is matter which has been vitally transformed. Life force has taken it and transformed the material. The same tissue when it dies will become, revert back to physical matter without the vital transformation. The vital energy takes up physical matter, rearranges it, it becomes living tissue, that's vital transformation. Mind engaging into that tissue and transforming it, making it conscious and eventually self-conscious is mental transformation. So every successive level above your mind can engage with the body and transform it in its terms to whatever extent. So the word transformation is very loose. We mean in this case particularly the supramental transformation. So mentalizing the body has been done, even has been very far by a few in history, even a spiritual influence on the body has been brought, again up to a certain point, when the supramental consciousness working on the body he said, has not been done anywhere and when he says anywhere, he means the whole universe, because he said if anyone had worked on it, you would have felt the imprint of that in the universal consciousness and so what he began to do actually is so pioneering, it has not been done in the whole universe. If you think about that, it's so astounding. You have millions of civilizations out there on planets and galaxies all across the universe who have developed a rational thinking mind, have developed a spiritual life, have even sometimes gone into very high spiritual states in which they have withdrawn from the physical world sometimes to live in a subtle body because that's more conducive to holding the spiritual state free from ignorance and inertia of the gross physical body and that was their line of evolution. But nobody has so far brought that supramental consciousness all the way into the physical consciousness to transform it. And so it's amazing that it took the focal point of this physical earth and Sri Aurobindo now to initiate something which has cosmic implications and we are right there, close to it.
Narad (0:46:31):
Thank you.